cafe-racer / default rider 183 cm
BMW R65LS vs Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Cafe Racer ergonomics
BMW R65LS and Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Cafe Racer land within a few ergonomic points for the default rider, so the better choice comes down to posture preference and bike category.
Fit verdict
BMW R65LS
95Comfortable
All contacts reached
Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Cafe Racer
95Comfortable
All contacts reached
The two bikes are close enough that posture preference matters more than the overall score.
Rider fit: reaching the ground
The BMW R65LS has a 810 mm seat; the Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Cafe Racer sits at 810 mm, within a few millimetres of each other. As a rule of thumb you flat-foot a bike when your inseam roughly matches its seat height: about 81 cm for the BMW R65LS and 81 cm for the Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Cafe Racer.
Geometry snapshot
| Spec | BMW R65LS | Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Cafe Racer |
|---|---|---|
| Seat height | 810 mm | 810 mm |
| Wheelbase | 1,400 mm | 1,400 mm |
| Wet weight | 207 kg | 230 kg |
| Displacement | 649 cc | 961 cc |
Posture metrics
Knee angle
- BMW R65LS
- Sport (58.0 deg)
- Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Cafe Racer
- Sport (58.0 deg)
Hip angle
- BMW R65LS
- Neutral (95.1 deg)
- Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Cafe Racer
- Neutral (95.1 deg)
Elbow angle
- BMW R65LS
- Relaxed (143.3 deg)
- Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Cafe Racer
- Relaxed (143.3 deg)
Torso lean
- BMW R65LS
- Neutral (11.3 deg)
- Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Cafe Racer
- Neutral (11.3 deg)