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cafe-racer / default rider 183 cm

BMW R65LS vs Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Cafe Racer ergonomics

BMW R65LS and Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Cafe Racer have modeled posture scores within three points for the 183 cm default rider. Treat this as a planning estimate; posture preference, data confidence, and a real test sit still matter.

Modeled fit comparison

BMW R65LS

Modeled scoreProvisional
95Comfortable

All contacts reached

Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Cafe Racer

Modeled scoreProvisional
95Comfortable

All contacts reached

The modeled scores are within three points, so the result does not distinguish a higher-scoring bike. Treat the result as a planning estimate and compare each bike's geometry confidence before a real test sit.

Rider fit: reaching the ground

The BMW R65LS lists a 810 mm seat; the Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Cafe Racer lists 810 mm, within a few millimetres of each other. Seat height is only a first-pass ground-reach input. It does not establish safety or actual foot contact. Seat width, suspension sag, boots, mobility, load, and individual proportions can materially change the result.

Geometry snapshot

Geometry comparison for BMW R65LS and Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Cafe Racer
SpecBMW R65LSNorton Motorcycles Commando 961 Cafe Racer
Seat height810 mm810 mm
Wheelbase1,400 mm1,400 mm
Wet weight207 kg230 kg
Displacement649 cc961 cc

Posture metrics

Knee angle

BMW R65LS
Sport (58.0 deg)
Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Cafe Racer
Sport (58.0 deg)

Hip angle

BMW R65LS
Neutral (95.1 deg)
Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Cafe Racer
Neutral (95.1 deg)

Elbow angle

BMW R65LS
Relaxed (143.3 deg)
Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Cafe Racer
Relaxed (143.3 deg)

Torso lean

BMW R65LS
Neutral (11.3 deg)
Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Cafe Racer
Neutral (11.3 deg)