cafe-racer / default rider 183 cm
BMW R65LS vs Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Sport ergonomics
BMW R65LS and Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Sport have modeled posture scores within three points for the 183 cm default rider. Treat this as a planning estimate; posture preference, data confidence, and a real test sit still matter.
Modeled fit comparison
BMW R65LS
All contacts reached
Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Sport
All contacts reached
The modeled scores are within three points, so the result does not distinguish a higher-scoring bike. Treat the result as a planning estimate and compare each bike's geometry confidence before a real test sit.
Rider fit: reaching the ground
The BMW R65LS lists a 810 mm seat; the Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Sport lists 810 mm, within a few millimetres of each other. Seat height is only a first-pass ground-reach input. It does not establish safety or actual foot contact. Seat width, suspension sag, boots, mobility, load, and individual proportions can materially change the result.
Geometry snapshot
| Spec | BMW R65LS | Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Sport |
|---|---|---|
| Seat height | 810 mm | 810 mm |
| Wheelbase | 1,400 mm | 1,400 mm |
| Wet weight | 207 kg | 230 kg |
| Displacement | 649 cc | 961 cc |
Posture metrics
Knee angle
- BMW R65LS
- Sport (58.0 deg)
- Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Sport
- Sport (58.0 deg)
Hip angle
- BMW R65LS
- Neutral (95.1 deg)
- Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Sport
- Neutral (95.1 deg)
Elbow angle
- BMW R65LS
- Relaxed (143.3 deg)
- Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Sport
- Relaxed (143.3 deg)
Torso lean
- BMW R65LS
- Neutral (11.3 deg)
- Norton Motorcycles Commando 961 Sport
- Neutral (11.3 deg)