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CFMoto Ibex 450 vs Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 ST ergonomics
CFMoto Ibex 450 and Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 ST have modeled posture scores within three points for the 183 cm default rider. Treat this as a planning estimate; posture preference, data confidence, and a real test sit still matter.
Modeled fit comparison
CFMoto Ibex 450
All contacts reached
Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 ST
All contacts reached
The modeled scores are within three points, so the result does not distinguish a higher-scoring bike. Treat the result as a planning estimate and compare each bike's geometry confidence before a real test sit.
Rider fit: reaching the ground
The CFMoto Ibex 450 lists a 800 mm seat; the Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 ST lists 805 mm — a 5 mm difference. Seat height is only a first-pass ground-reach input. It does not establish safety or actual foot contact. Seat width, suspension sag, boots, mobility, load, and individual proportions can materially change the result.
On seat height alone, the CFMoto Ibex 450 has the easier modeled ground reach. Load your measurements into the simulator to compare the model, then verify both motorcycles in person.
Geometry snapshot
| Spec | CFMoto Ibex 450 | Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 ST |
|---|---|---|
| Seat height | 800 mm | 805 mm |
| Wheelbase | 1,505 mm | 1,570 mm |
| Wet weight | 193 kg | 246 kg |
| Displacement | 449 cc | 1,252 cc |
Posture metrics
Knee angle
- CFMoto Ibex 450
- Sport (65.5 deg)
- Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 ST
- Sport (65.7 deg)
Hip angle
- CFMoto Ibex 450
- Neutral (100.7 deg)
- Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 ST
- Neutral (99.3 deg)
Elbow angle
- CFMoto Ibex 450
- Relaxed (143.3 deg)
- Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 ST
- Relaxed (143.3 deg)
Torso lean
- CFMoto Ibex 450
- Neutral (10.0 deg)
- Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 ST
- Neutral (10.9 deg)